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Old 09-19-2011, 10:32 PM Thread Starter
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Help! My Porcupine puffer is damaged!!!

Hi Gyus!!! 3 days ago i sow this damage on my puffer- it's look like worn wound whith little hole inside. How you think what it is? puffer feels by himself good-swimming,eats...but i scare about this wound! any ideas guys? help please!!!!
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:14 AM
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1) the puffer looks a little emaciated, could be from diet or parasites.
2) we need the tank stats:
Ammonia level
Nitrite level
Nitrate level
How big is the tank?
How long was the tank established for?
How long have you owned the puffer?
What are the tank mates?
What else is in the tank?
What have you changed in the tank in the last 4 weeks?

3) treatment for SW fish is a little complicated without a correct diagnosis. I would contact Kelly at Disease, Health and Wellness - by Kelly Jedlicki

Do this ASAP and provide her with all the above information.

Without the above info not many people will be able to help. From the looks of things... do you have a lion fish in the tank also?




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Old 09-20-2011, 11:30 AM
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BTW ... we're working on it.. from a few different sources...

Nothing I have seen first hand before. :(




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Old 09-20-2011, 07:04 PM
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He's not eating, which isn't a good sign. And looks as if he may have imapled himself on something. ?? What are you feeding? Anything?
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:39 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you very much for your reply!!! Well...
-I bougt my puffer 1 month ago.His body was clean.
-Tank i bought 2 month ago.It is old tank,not new.
-My tank is 75 gallons.
-Nitrate 35
-Nitrite-0
-Amonia 40
-pH 8.4
-Alkalinity 300
-Chlorine 0
-t 78-80 F
-salt 1.020
-When I bought him he looked like today-a little emaciated.he is small- 2.8 inches
-I feed him by shrimps-he likes it and eats with pleasure.2 times in day.
?-So, how many times in day I have to feed him?
-Last 2 days I added a little bit water in filter and a little salt.
-Maybe 2 weeks ago I added conditioner to reduce nitrate and skimmer was turned off.
-Yes,I have lion fish and dog face puffer yet.
?-Maybe some of this reason damaged my puffer? or it desease?
Thanks)))

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Old 09-20-2011, 10:23 PM Thread Starter
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P.S. I maened level of ammonia is 0.45 not40 ))))
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Your tank is still cycling. Those ammonia levels are not good for your fish, at all. Its a probable that he got tangled with the Lion, I'm not leaning that way, but its a might. You feed him 2 times a day?? With shrimp, what kind of shrimp are you feeding him? And he actually getting any? Or the other big fish taking it?
you need to do a water change. 25% of your water with new water, that is same temperature and salinity as your tank. Preferably using RO/DI water.
Cycling a New Saltwater Aquarium With Fish - Tips For Making Good Tank Starter Fish Choices
Reverse osmosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Saltwater Aquarium Fish for Marine Aquariums: Porcupine Puffer
Saltwater Aquarium Fish for Marine Aquariums: Volitan Lionfish, Colored
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Thank you very much for your reply!!! Well...
-I bougt my puffer 1 month ago.His body was clean.
-Tank i bought 2 month ago.It is old tank,not new.
-My tank is 75 gallons.
-Nitrate 35
-Nitrite-0
-Amonia 40
-pH 8.4
-Alkalinity 300
-Chlorine 0
-t 78-80 F
-salt 1.020
-When I bought him he looked like today-a little emaciated.he is small- 2.8 inches
-I feed him by shrimps-he likes it and eats with pleasure.2 times in day.
?-So, how many times in day I have to feed him?
-Last 2 days I added a little bit water in filter and a little salt.
-Maybe 2 weeks ago I added conditioner to reduce nitrate and skimmer was turned off.
-Yes,I have lion fish and dog face puffer yet.
?-Maybe some of this reason damaged my puffer? or it desease?
Thanks)))
How much Live Rock do you have in your tank? How many powerheads? What do you use to move water in the tank? you can bring your salinity up to around 1.023-1.025
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I know this is going to sound harsh, but it is what is best for the fish and not the keeper. It is up to you to decide what to do from here.

1) The ammonia should read 0. There may be a mini cycle or something happening in the tank that is not keeping the water at its best. Pristine clean water is the first line of defense in the healing process. That just isn't going to happen in that tank. The reason being:
2) The tank is too small. The bioload of those fish (especially the dog face) will require MUCH more filtration and space than you are currently providing. The dog face should be in a 100 gal tank all by itself, the porc will need about 120 gallons.
3) Diet. Shrimp are good as a treat but lack the nutritional value required to keep up their immune system. They need shelled crustaceans such as clams, mussels etc.. Never feed cooked foods to them. If you want to read more on feeding shrimp please read this article: Thiaminase

My first guess is that it is a lion fish sting. The spacing of the injury seems to indicate that. It looks like 3 small puncture marks, 2 of which have become badly infected. That is just a guess. What is different is the fact that the area around the wounds hasn't turned grey or black yet, that would be proof of a lion fish sting.

Lion Fish and puffers are a TERRIBLE combination. Puffers usually can't resist nipping at those long beautiful fins and usually end up getting killed because of it.

Which leads my to the next theory: The Dog Face puffer may have taken a a swipe at the Porc. Puffer bites are almost perfectly circular but usually they don't break the skin. DF puffers do have some nasty teeth that Porcs don't have.

In either case, the fish should be held in a hospital tank with super clean water, an excellent diet with supplements. Have you posted on Marine Depot? Kelly will be able to advise a treatment method and possibly a better diagnosis.

If it is a lion fish sting... I have no idea of the treatment. I have never seen a puffer survive one.

Also read:
http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/...-puffers-solo/




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Old 09-21-2011, 12:34 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for your reply!
-I feed him Frozen Shrimps-I put it in plate,wait around 10 min.When it a little bit thawed I give him little pices on speshial stik.He eats just 3-4 little pices,no more.
- I have just 25 pounds life rocks.I know i need 75.Tomorrow i am going to buy 25 more,after more.
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