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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-29-2008, 08:18 PM Thread Starter
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I'm not an expert on the green spotted puffers, but they get to be about 6" long so I think a 40-50 gallon tank would be appropriate long term. You can't really house any other fish with them as they can be very mean and might kill other fish. Even if the fish was purchased living in freshwater, it will need to be slowly converted to brackish water. The end-level salinity for green spotted puffers kind of depends on who you get your information from. Some say they need mid-range brackish, while others say they eventually need full marine conditions. This means that as the fish grows, you will have to very slowly convert it to at least a brackish tank by adding water with marine salt mix during water changes. You'll need a good hydrometer in order to properly measure salinity.

As for diet: well, I'm not really sure. I'm not sure that pond snails will work long term as they might die in brackish water. I would imagine that things like frozen krill and live ghost shrimp would probably be a good choice.
ahh okay xD and the snails will be devoured on sight xD and as for the level of salinity ill just do brackish i just dont know how to work even a ph reader or the tester kit or any of that but if im showed i can prob learn within the week xD btw are the kits re-usable?
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Well any fishkeeper should have a proper test kit. You should get yourself a good liquid test kit, like the API Freshwater Master Test Kit. It will allow you to test the most important tank parameters: pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. For the puffer, since you might eventually be converting him to full saltwater, you'd probably need a saltwater test kit. I'm not sure exactly which tests are usable in both conditions or at which point you need to switch to a saltwater kit when you're going brackish. The liquid test kits are much more reliable than the paper test strips, and they offer you many more tests because you only use a few drops out of the bottle at a time.

The hydrometer is a physical device that measures the salinity of your water, so you can keep using that forever (well, until it breaks I suppose). You'll want to make sure you get a hydrometer that goes all the way down to 1.000 specific gravity, since the fish is starting in freshwater and will need to be very slowly changed to at least mid-range brackish water.

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Well any fishkeeper should have a proper test kit. You should get yourself a good liquid test kit, like the API Freshwater Master Test Kit. It will allow you to test the most important tank parameters: pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. For the puffer, since you might eventually be converting him to full saltwater, you'd probably need a saltwater test kit. I'm not sure exactly which tests are usable in both conditions or at which point you need to switch to a saltwater kit when you're going brackish. The liquid test kits are much more reliable than the paper test strips, and they offer you many more tests because you only use a few drops out of the bottle at a time.

The hydrometer is a physical device that measures the salinity of your water, so you can keep using that forever (well, until it breaks I suppose). You'll want to make sure you get a hydrometer that goes all the way down to 1.000 specific gravity, since the fish is starting in freshwater and will need to be very slowly changed to at least mid-range brackish water.
oh confusing but ill ask for em at petshop :3 thanks
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help with puffer

ummm well my dad is being ajerk...and he wont really let me buy sand he says its too messy and that ill have to keep buying new one....and he doesnt want me to introduce saltness to the puffer... v.v what should i do? ;-; i mean i cant return it back to walmart if nothings wrong with it...
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ummm well my dad is being ajerk...and he wont really let me buy sand he says its too messy and that ill have to keep buying new one....and he doesnt want me to introduce saltness to the puffer... v.v what should i do? ;-; i mean i cant return it back to walmart if nothings wrong with it...
and the worst part is i cant really get out to college till about a year.... so this is making me extremely depressed i really dont want to kill him ;~;
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also would it be alright if im feeding it from time to time turtle sticks not as a complete diet kind of thing but its more of because the turtle sticks are hard and crunchy it might help him keep his tooth at bay....also if i cant really do a full marine tank will he be alright in a brackishwater? (my dad thinks because im going to do a full marine tank ill need extra equipment like the other fish) like his tooth goes in and out in out in out xD idk why he reminds me of a deku scrub.... xD lol but anyways will he be alright like daily giving it other foods but atleast offering a pellet? like i did that now and he likes the pellet XD hes biting it xD
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maybe once a week get him a colombian ramshorn, they are bigger snails that he can munch on. They cost around 2.50 here and I think the malaysian trumpet snails have thick shells which would help but they aren't that big. They are too tough for my dwarf puffers to get at but a GS puffer shouldn't have any problem.

The green spotted puffers do need marine water to survive as adults, they only go into mid-low end brackish water to spawn. They are usually sold as freshwater fishes becuase that's where they go to have babies and the babies need the fresher water for some odd reson, not sure why... One of the oddities of the underwater world.
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