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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-30-2008, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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Puffer advice?

umm well i think what i have might be a green spotted puffer but it was labeled dwarf spotted puffer.... umm its bright yellow and 1-3inches like right now he seems happy but i want to get bumblebee(as i named him) whatever he needs....ummm i heard that spotted puffers need salt in the tank umm will they need skimmers and all that other stuff? because my dad cant buy most salt water equipment and keep up with a saltwater coral reef tank mostly what we could do is get the marine salt (though it was in a big bag for 24dollars) and um....lemme see and the livesand....but it cost alot it was in water but its a bag(large) for 24dollars as well....so we cant really you know keep buying sand evetytime we need to clean the tank...also is there a biospira for saltwater tanks? umm and besides of the rest what kind of filter do you suggest?(i want the best of the best but that doesnt cost like my other filter ._. 200dollars) also since i really have no idea how to breed snails umm is there anything else thats easier to breed that theyll love to eat? or will like hard food such a turtle pellets(they are hard) will help keep the beak at bay? (hes still small) he sometimes changes(the top of his head) changes from bright yellow to gold to dull yellow to gray with a bit of yellow on top (gray when im not around for some reason xD yes i monitored him) well i know bumblebee might do well in brackish but i really want to know from an expert does he need fully saltwater? or will he do fine in brackish? can i get him liverock if i do brackish? if i do live rock will it hurt him?
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Your puffer is a brackish fish and does not have the requirements of a saltwater aquarium. You can simply add salt to your freshwater system, elevate the salinity to 1.006 - 1.008, and maintain the system in the same manor as a FW tank.

Your puffer needs meaty foods in its diet, so be sure to feed a variety of tubifex, bloods worms, brine shrimp, and krill.

For the record, the substrate of your aquarium should not be replaced when you clean the aquarium. Cleaning an aquarium involves draining water and replacing it with new water. In your case, the new water should be increased to 1.006 - 1.008 salinity prior to adding it to the tank.

Marine salt is fine. You will need to buy a hydrometer to measure the amount of salt in the water.
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Your puffer is a brackish fish and does not have the requirements of a saltwater aquarium. You can simply add salt to your freshwater system, elevate the salinity to 1.006 - 1.008, and maintain the system in the same manor as a FW tank.

Your puffer needs meaty foods in its diet, so be sure to feed a variety of tubifex, bloods worms, brine shrimp, and krill.

For the record, the substrate of your aquarium should not be replaced when you clean the aquarium. Cleaning an aquarium involves draining water and replacing it with new water. In your case, the new water should be increased to 1.006 - 1.008 salinity prior to adding it to the tank.

Marine salt is fine. You will need to buy a hydrometer to measure the amount of salt in the water.
well how much is the hydrometer? and m giving him plankton xD which other people suggested also a turtle pellet a day (for the teeth) till i can figure out what else i can replace for snails D: anyways i also have frozen brine shrimp as well xD and i have gravel so i have to change that....and as for cleaning tank you dont drain it completely i learned that puffers must have cycled water xD
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i learned that puffers must have cycled water xD
is there any fish that doesnt need cycled water
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what would be best is to remove a quarter of the gravel and replace it with some sand, wait a week and remove a quarter more of the gravel and replace that with sand.. and so on and so forth until the gravel is completely removed.. this way you wont re-cycle your tank.
and a hydrometer is about $5-8 dollars (u.s.)
a refractometer is more acurate, however more expensive about $50 and up
you'd be fine with the hydrometer, just make sure it can read specific gravity of the lower levels (about 1.004+) so you can measure your salt content.
as for snails, they take no effort at all to culture, a fish bowl will work and all you need is 1 pest snail (pond snail whatever you want to call it) and soon enough you will see clear egg sacs all over the glass. problem is, you prob. wont be pumping out snails as fast as your puffer eats them. my dwarf puffers (freshwater puffers) eat about a snail a day and live blackworms. i culture both so its not a problem, but my snail population is looking weak, they just eat them so fast lol and theyre in a 30gal tank seperate from the puffers .. so you'll want to supplement other foods then snails to eat, im not sure about the turtle food that might have nutrients in it unhealthy to the fish but who knows.. if your going to use that as a supplement for snails i wouldnt do it for a period of time..
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what would be best is to remove a quarter of the gravel and replace it with some sand, wait a week and remove a quarter more of the gravel and replace that with sand.. and so on and so forth until the gravel is completely removed.. this way you wont re-cycle your tank.
and a hydrometer is about $5-8 dollars (u.s.)
a refractometer is more acurate, however more expensive about $50 and up
you'd be fine with the hydrometer, just make sure it can read specific gravity of the lower levels (about 1.004+) so you can measure your salt content.
as for snails, they take no effort at all to culture, a fish bowl will work and all you need is 1 pest snail (pond snail whatever you want to call it) and soon enough you will see clear egg sacs all over the glass. problem is, you prob. wont be pumping out snails as fast as your puffer eats them. my dwarf puffers (freshwater puffers) eat about a snail a day and live blackworms. i culture both so its not a problem, but my snail population is looking weak, they just eat them so fast lol and theyre in a 30gal tank seperate from the puffers .. so you'll want to supplement other foods then snails to eat, im not sure about the turtle food that might have nutrients in it unhealthy to the fish but who knows.. if your going to use that as a supplement for snails i wouldnt do it for a period of time..
ahh thanks xD what brand of hygrometer? and does it exactly say the number? or is it like a thermometer(the one in your mouth kind) that tends to be harder to read D: anyways no the turtle pellet isnt as a main supplement xD its more of like a daily thing to keep its tooth trimmed because its hard xD
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what would be best is to remove a quarter of the gravel and replace it with some sand, wait a week and remove a quarter more of the gravel and replace that with sand.. and so on and so forth until the gravel is completely removed.. this way you wont re-cycle your tank.
and a hydrometer is about $5-8 dollars (u.s.)
a refractometer is more acurate, however more expensive about $50 and up
you'd be fine with the hydrometer, just make sure it can read specific gravity of the lower levels (about 1.004+) so you can measure your salt content.
as for snails, they take no effort at all to culture, a fish bowl will work and all you need is 1 pest snail (pond snail whatever you want to call it) and soon enough you will see clear egg sacs all over the glass. problem is, you prob. wont be pumping out snails as fast as your puffer eats them. my dwarf puffers (freshwater puffers) eat about a snail a day and live blackworms. i culture both so its not a problem, but my snail population is looking weak, they just eat them so fast lol and theyre in a 30gal tank seperate from the puffers .. so you'll want to supplement other foods then snails to eat, im not sure about the turtle food that might have nutrients in it unhealthy to the fish but who knows.. if your going to use that as a supplement for snails i wouldnt do it for a period of time..
so what your saying is if i find alot of people to give me alot of pond snails i can basically put em in a tank and breed them like crazy? well not soo much a tank more of like a trashcan Xd and not the black one XD more of the white ones with water and everything set up and plenty of food xD and plant matter xD
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a hydrometer has an "arm" and the salt lifts this arm depending on how much salt is in the water.. its a pretty simple device..
a refractometer is a digital reading as my understanding, but like i said a hydrometer will be just fine.

and yes, find someone that has a tank overgrown with snails.. im sure they will be happy to give away a few, put them into a fish bowl, tuperware, a vase anything basically and feed a few flakes here and there, or a blanched veggy or pretty much anything and in no time you will have a bunch of them!

petsmart prob. will be happy to give over a few pest snails if you ask, thats where i got mine from.
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a hydrometer has an "arm" and the salt lifts this arm depending on how much salt is in the water.. its a pretty simple device..
a refractometer is a digital reading as my understanding, but like i said a hydrometer will be just fine.

and yes, find someone that has a tank overgrown with snails.. im sure they will be happy to give away a few, put them into a fish bowl, tuperware, a vase anything basically and feed a few flakes here and there, or a blanched veggy or pretty much anything and in no time you will have a bunch of them!

petsmart prob. will be happy to give over a few pest snails if you ask, thats where i got mine from.
but the problem is umm while i make the snails breed what do i do with the evergrowing tooth? and how long does it take to lay eggs and the eggs to hatch and so and so? and how long does it take em to get as big as adults? well i know this sounds cruel xD but itll prob die anyways umm well i took this wil crayfish and i uhh uhh cut one of his claw xD and umm uhh i placed it in the puffers tank and he was chewing on it xD i mean it was nerve wreaking for me to do that xD so i used a scissor to cut it off xD and snap the lil bugger(crayfish) looked very mad at me xD so umm yeah again not my fault i was trying to find an alternative and well the puffer didnt eat it so i think for now all i have to do is just like pick it up and drop it again sometimes it drifts and the puffer chases it xD so yeah uhh yeah ><
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uhh xD well since i couldnt find pond snails yet...nor have em available xD i found a river crayfish and umm im trying to feed it to my puffer >< i know this might seem cruel but i had to cut off the claws otherwise the crayfish would have ripped him appart D: and i dont want my puffers teeth to be overgrown (hes about 2-3inches right now) umm so do you think this will work for now?i mean he seems to pick at the claws i placed in the tank also just in case XD ummm but he cant completely eat it he just picks at it from time to time
ps: also is it possible to take some sand from the beach? as in to get some sand sifters and such....so i could buy the normal non live sand and culture my own live sand? or is it illegal?
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