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post #31 of 37 (permalink) Old 02-26-2009, 07:34 AM Thread Starter
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I've posted the link to this tank(which was ridiculously easy when i was shown ) on the fresh water equipment page as I figure it should prob. go there.
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post #32 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-02-2009, 06:14 PM
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Personally, I avoid the aquarium kits as they tend to be a lot more expensive than just building your own kit, plus they're less flexible in terms of how you set them up.

As for the puffers: definitely highly recommended! The thing about their beaks is actually a myth, though. Lots of larger puffer species *do* need to eat hard foods in order to wear down their beaks, but dwarf puffers don't have the ever-growing beaks of their larger cousins. So, you don't need to worry about finding them extra tiny snails that they can crush or anything like that. With dwarf puffers, it's just a matter of finding a steady source of foods they'll actually eat. Sometimes they can be stubborn about eating even frozen foods, but I've never encountered dwarf puffers that wouldn't eat live blackworms and live snails. Pond snails are extremely easy to breed. Just go to any local pet shop and they probably have an infestation of them somewhere and will gladly give you some for free. Then, you can just put them in any other established tank you've got and they should start breeding like crazy. Until you have your own breeding colony you may have to rely on live worms or snails from the pet shop.

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Thanks for all the info. I've got plenty of snails!!! in my community tank - since I actually bought a live plant which had two little brown snails on and I thought they were real cute so added them to my tank quite happily Luckily my tank is not so big and so it's easy to keep the numbers reasonable. I think i may eventually write a beginners mistakes page for anyone else starting out!

Got the tank it's a 48l - think it's a perfect size as the 40l I was going for just didn't look big enough when I saw the fully grown DP in the FS - they are quite rounded and big looking even at just over an inch long!

Going out to get the substrate today - might go for the eco-complete but just about to do some research into ottos and find out what kind of substrate they like as I'll eventually get a few when the tanks been running for a good while with the puffers in - but I was thinking would it be better to introduce the ottos while the DP are still quite young and less aggressive?

Keep you all posted with the progress - might start a new thread since I'm setting the tank up now :O)
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I would wait on the otos until the tank has been set up for several months, and even then only if you have a steady algae supply. I've kept otos with DP's before and honestly the puffers pay them no attention whatsoever, so you shouldn't have aggression issues to worry about. However, otos are really delicate and as I'm sure you've read, can be extremely picky with some specimens only eating algae. I know mine would only eat algae, fresh greens like spinach, and all of my cabomba. They wouldn't touch algae wafers.

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Yeah I've read that they an be pretty picky eaters and prefer to graze on the algae in the tank, so I'll just have the puffers til the tank has been running a long while.

Although I have also read that even with tanks with a good algae build up - a group of ottos have pretty much eaten it all in no time at all! But to be honest I'll be more than happy with just the DPs and see how it goes.

The guy in the FS seemed very knowledgeable about the DP and claimed to be able to identify the sex of the young looking at the width of the head between the eyes and when we looked there were some which had obvious wider heads (I don't know if this is good advice to be honest but he seemed to know what he was talking about) The DP in the shop were very young and in with other young fish and you could already clearly see their territorial behavour circling and nipping at the fish who swam 2 close!

These fish are just the most cute little darlings I can't wait to look after them - and apparently they start to know when the person who feeds them is approaching the tank and come out for their food - I like that :)

Since I won't be getting the ottos for a long time I think I've decided on 4 DP (1 male - 3 female) for the 48l tank (and have to accept that I wont see them much when they're very young lol) I think cos the females are generally fatter they're the better looking - which makes a refreshing change :)

Well set up the tank this afternoon and made a note of what i've put in it - but I'll start a new thread to catalogue the progress - where do you think it would be best to do this in the picture part or starting/maintaining part?
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Either section would be just fine. If you're going to have a lot of pictures the picture section might be better.

I'm looking forward to the build thread!

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Ok thanks I don't think the pics will be very interesting for a long while though :)

Just waiting for the water to clear still, used plate when adding water to tank and it was lovely and clear - but when putting the plants in it kinda got very muddy!!! It was made worse by my first mistake - not getting enough substrate - so the plants do look a little funny with the mounds around the base oh well.

I'm doing a fishless cycle, is it best to add a little live food to the tank or do the flakes work just as well, cos I remember reading live food in particular creates a lot of nitrates? I really hope this is not a stupid question.

I'll start the thread with all the info. when I can get a half decent pic.
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