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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-29-2016, 01:31 PM Thread Starter
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Concerned figure 8 puffer poison

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I am new at this forum and new at puffer breeding. I have a 120 liters tank and I had adquired a figure 8 puffer (tetraodon biocellatus).

I have made a lot of research to try to have the best enviroment and best feeding for him, but there is one thing that is not still crear to me and I am a little worried:

I is dangerous to manipulate de inteiror of the tank? I mean, is ti dangerous if somehow I touch the puffer or he bits me?

I have read that the poison is in the meat, viscera and skin, so I am not sure if the is any problem it I hold him in my hand (I am not saying that I will do that LOL).

I thinks there is people even say that it is safe to take them with your hand without gloves to cut his teeth.
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Given that there are virtually no documented records of figure 8 puffers being successfully bred in captivity, I bid you luck. All of the figure 8 puffers you buy at LFS are wild caught.

Your tank is a great size for a figure 8 puffer. I wouldn’t personally keep more than one puffer per community. As they age they will develop aggression towards one another. They also express sexual dimorphism, in which the males and females look exactly the same. Females can grow larger than males in time, but the difference is hardly noteworthy, and not a good basis to sex the fish.

One bit to mention. These are a brackish aquarium fish. They need a specific gravity of at least 1.008, or their immune systems will be compromised. I keep a green spotted puffer in a community of mollies (who also thrive in brackish tanks). I keep my specific gravity at 1.014. The green spotted puffer is a slightly larger version of this. They are both in the Tetraodon genus.

The puffer may bite you, and could potentially break the skin, but it is highly unlikely. They are also non-toxic. The traditional Japanese dish you are referring to is called Fugu. It is prepared normally species of genus Takifugu, Lagocephalus, or Sphoeroides, or porcupinefish of the genus Diodon. The liver contains tetrodotoxin, so extreme care in preparation must be taken to avoid puncturing the liver. The figure 8 puffer is in the genus Tetraodon. So use gloves if you want to, but I don't ever worry about it. If my puffer tried me I would probably give him a good backhand across the tank.

Edit: This is how I do teeth trimmings. Follow this guide exactly. Too much clove oil can euthanize your puffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VadOW39Cd3I
Alternatively you can feed your puffer a diet of snails and crustaceans to naturally grind down the teeth.

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Thank you very much for the answer. I didn´t mean I will try to breed them. Sorry, I am not english speaking and maybe I have not chosen the best word. I wil just try to rise him up in good conditions LOL.

I am glad to hear about the harmless nature of this species to contact as I know that all the Tetraodon have this kind of poison into some of their organs (it is said that with time, in domestic tanks the lose it, because it is generated by wild bacteria).

I only concern was about getting my hand in the tank and getting contact with it, as is it not clearly written anywhere that is safe for you (sureley, not safe for the fish).

Thank you very much for your opinion and expertise.
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Tetrodotoxin is a neurotoxin. It inhibits the firing of action potential; which is what causes the tingly feeling people get when they ingest the minute amounts found in the meat of the fish.


According to the CDC:
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Exposure occurs due to ingestion of fish or other food containing tetrodotoxin.
CDC - The Emergency Response Safety and Health Database: Biotoxin: TETRODOTOXIN - NIOSH

So don't eat your fish and you are 100% in the clear.

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